Foth Derby camera

Foth Derby camera

C.F. Foth of Gdansk/Danzig and later Berlin and Paris was a short-lived camera maker that offered a line of three camera series for a little over a decade.

Most of Foth’s camera models did not gain prominence in camera history; the one model still seen is the Derby, which seems to have been its bestseller. There are many online and print references to this model. Still, as is common with vintage cameras, details differ from one article to another, as do the names for the separate models.

In the table below, I have summarized what I found in different sources. Yet, I suspect it is biased, as the Derby had no major specification changes or cut-and-dry evolution, and all were marked Derby by the manufacturer. At large, there is more that is common to all models than there are differences.

The Derby is not a typical prewar camera. It looks like a transitional style between the bulky folders and the compact 35mm. It keeps the compact size by using a strut-folding pop-out lens board instead of the common fold-out bed. Similar to high-end cameras of the time, the shutter mechanism and controls are within the body, not in the lens assembly. The focal-plane curtain shutter is borrowed from Leica. I would classify this camera as a wolf in sheep’s clothing, with features, specifications, and quality higher than those of the class it was meant for.

  • The first Derby generation used 24x36mm format on #127 spool, allowing 18 exposures on a roll, two more than the common 3x4cm format. It used a Newtonian viewer, which is a fancy name for a sports-type viewer, although decreasing the captured view. Lens was Foth’s own 2.5/50, high-spec for the time.
  • The next model added a self-timer.
  • A folding tubular hinged viewer was soon added, with an option for a cheaper 3.5/50, while the rest was unchanged.
  • On the back, the frame counter view windows now have two selectable sets, green and red. Green for panchromatic and red for orthochromatic film.
  • The cameras were sold at export markets, with different add-on options. The UK models offered interchangeable lenses; I’m not sure what mount, if proprietary or any of the existing conventions. There are mentions on the fly about available lenses for this model by Zeiss and Dallmeyer, but no details.
  • The US model added a US-made rangefinder module. The rangefinder could also be mounted on earlier models. It was sold also by Sears as Foth Deby Super Speed
  • In the late 1930s, production shifted to France, where Foth joined (?) Gallus. models unchanged, but a French-made rangefinder could be added.
  • From about that time onwards, products were Gallus-branded. Tracks of Foth, as a person or a company, went cold.
  • Note that in the notes above, I refrained from matching each upgrade with a generation/model. As said, all models were named Derby, and the model’s name was added by later historians, with no clear accord.

The camera

  • The Derby is of the “read the manual first” type.
  • The camera on my desk is a later model; I entered it under Derby II W/O rangefinder. It is the model that is most often offered for sale.
  • The camera is tiny, true pocket size, even by today’s standards.
  • The top has a Leica-style shutter speed selector. Turn it clockwise to cock the shutter. Turning is against a fairly strong spring; it takes turning until it locks in place, else it will click back. Once done, lift the ring and set the speed against the (tiny) dot on the hub.
  • Next to it is the self-timer lever, marked with a red dot. It is oddly positioned, and it took me some time to find out what it does. To activate the timer, push it to the left till it locks under the pin next to it. To initiate, push the said pin to the left. The self-timer overrides the trigger.
  • The prominent, hinged viewer is next. It is embarrassingly small, and the view is reduced to being captured. I don’t know why the viewer is hinged, perhaps to reduce the overall footprint.
  • The winder knob is by it. Using a paperback #127 film, there is no rewind knob.
  • The hinged back opens via a bolt on the side, marked with an arrow.
  • A slider on the back exposes either the red or green frame number viewing lenses to match the film used.
  • The frame orientation is portrait, so to take a landscape image, turn the camera on its side.
  • The shutter is a focal-plane cloth curtain, borrowed from the high-end models of the time. On my camera, aside from a slight wrinkle, both curtains slide happily.
  • The front board pulls out by pulling on the top and bottom tabs, and it clicks nicely into place. The lens board bottom is flush with the camera base, so it sits firmly on a flat surface. To retract, push it back.
  • The modest trigger is at the front, top left of the lens board. With the lens board retracted, it hides in a matching hole. A remote trigger port is on the other side of the board, with a matching hole.
  • The zone focusing dial is flush with the lens board. On my camera, it is marked in feet, so it is a US version.
  • As the front end is the aperture dial.

For the collector, it is a highly recommended addition. It differs from other cameras of the era in both features and quality.

Camdex list number 10788
Brand Foth
Model Derby II, w/o CRF
Manual
Value See table below
Format 127
Introduced 1934
AKA Super Derby, several versions
Country Germany
Qty made
Initial price 18
Currency USD
Type Pop out
Body material Metal
Mode Manual
Weight 450 gr,  Body with lens
Class average weight 435 gr,  Body with lens
ASA range N/A
Kit lens 2.5/50
Lens make Foth
Filter size Slide on 30mm
Lens mount Fixed lens
Mount size N/A
Aperture
Shutter Focal plane cloth horizontal
Shutter make Foth
Trigger At front of body
Winder Knob
Shutter cocking Shutter speed selector dial
Light meter None
Lock No
Speeds B, 25-500
Mirror N/A
Viewer Viewfinder
DOF preview No
Exposure lock No
Exposure compensation No
Shoe No
External sync No
Sync speed N/A
Timer Yes, mechanical
Battery, original N/A
Battery, replacement N/A
Battery voltage N/A
Integral flash None
Other
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Note that the specs above are taken from the camera on my bench. Cameras under the same model could have different lenses or shutter assemblies, or other minor differences

Foth Derby models list

image linkModelYearAKA
Derby I 1931
Derby II Luxus 1931
Derby II, w/o CRF 1934Super Derby, several versions
Derby II, w CRF 1934US market
Derby Early 1930Sport viewer
Derby IIIb 1935
Derby III 1935Derby Super Speed
Super Derby 1934

 

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